Sullivan Stays Skeptical

THE ILLUSTRATION ABOVE IS NOT MEANT TO SUGGEST

THAT ANDREW SULLIVAN IS AN ATHEIST.  HE IS NOT.

HE DOES NOT QUESTION THE BIRTH OF JESUS.  ONLY TRIG.

 

Andrew doesn’t need me linking to his new Palin posts. He does quite well on his own.

But what he says today is so pertinent to what he and I and others said yesterday, I’d be remiss not to urge you to read it.

He’s rightly merciless about the self-serving mainstream political media in this country. Someone remarked to me just yesterday that they chase around after each other like hamsters in a wheel, not recognizing that the wheel is not the universe. They write as much to impress one another as to communicate insight and truth. And they talk mostly to each other, thus finding reinforcement among like minds for their pre-existing opinions. This is hall of mirrors journalism, in which every image they see is in some way a reflection of themselves. Hall of mirrors journalism is practiced with particular avidity in Washington, D.C. and among those political journalists living outside the Beltway only because they can’t find a way in.

Sullivan asks,

“are we skeptics supposed to just sit back and be mocked by a pathological liar putting her own credibility against ours?…It seems to me that when some simple, readily available medical records could end this excruciating debate in one easy swoop…it is professional negligence that MSM won’t even ask for such proof, and devote far more energy to defending their own past than the facts at hand.”

Here’s one simple question for Sarah Palin, which does not involve the release of medical records: Why did you say last September that Trig was born in Anchorage, not Wasilla?

In regard to medical records and actual eyewitness testimony–as opposed to the recovered memories of Quinn and Loy–I had a brief and typically futile Twitter exchange earlier today, as follows:

@FeistyShelia

I’m friends with a nurse who was there when Trig was born, watched Sarah push him out. You’re an idiot.

@joemcginniss

I’d like to talk to her, on the record. Can you please have her get in touch with me?

@FeistyShelia

she would lose her job because of HIPPA. Sarah would have to sign a release. She would LOVE to go on record!

@joemcginniss

Why wouldn’t Sarah sign a release? She could get rid of this story once and for all?

@FeistySheliah

no it wouldn’t. Why would anyone ask? It’s ridiculous. People would doubt validity, make excuses. Better to ignore crazy.

@joemcginniss

Too bad. A true eyewitness to the birth could make the whole issue go away overnight.

@FeistyShelia

People wouldn’t believe she was telling the truth. Can’t argue with lunatics…then you become the crazy one.

 

There you have it:  a delivery room nurse who actually witnessed Sarah give birth to Trig.

But will she talk?  Nope.  Far better to insult those sincerely interested in learning the truth with words like “crazy,” “lunatics” and “stupid.”

It would be different if Sarah had a reputation for truthfulness. But how can people be asked to take her at her word on this issue when her lies about so many others are documented.

68 Responses to “Sullivan Stays Skeptical”

  • Down the rabbit hole we go. Or have gone. “I can’t tell you anything because you won’t believe me anyway.” Insanity redux. Or deluxe. I’m no longer sure.

    Great effort and zen-like calm on your part. Look forward to reading the book.

    http://www.lauranovakauthor.com/blog.html

    Laura

  • Publius:

    Look at the facts, not opinions. Sarah Palin is a confirmed, proven and demonstrable liar. This is fact.

    Therefore, everything she says, writes or does should be questioned. Everything.

    When the media does not question, they fail.

  • Dis Gusted:

    wondering if feistyshelia’s nurse friend works at Mat-Su or Anchorage….lol IOW, I don’t believe it. Maybe the nurse friend is Chuckie…. He said he was there

  • Joe–this is actually pretty comical. If this woman is carrying tales second hand via twitter, then that’s one helluva HIPAA violation, once removed. Nice. Track that nurse down–she just lost her license.

  • SLQ:

    Hmmm. If this supposed nurse who was allegedly there when Trig was born is so concerned about HIPAA, why was she blabbing to her friend, who then felt comfortable posting it on the internet? There can’t be more than one or two labor and delivery nurses on record for the “birth,” so it would be easy for the hospital to find out who blabbed to her friend. Would a person in that situation, with a high profile patient, take a risk that she seems well aware could get her into trouble? Morelikely an anonymous poster is planting “evidence” to help poor $arah. Smells fishy . . .

  • Mary:

    Hopefully, feistysheila’s nurse friend knows that it’s HIPAA, not HIPPO.

    So interesting how all of these stories of proof are coming out so suddenly!

  • Dr Who:

    You were really fair with her and more polite than I would have been.
    She calls you an idiot because you
    ask reasonable questions? She only makes Sarah look bad with that approach.
    This FeistySheila should see that all us would stop talking about this if Sarah provided credible evidence.
    We have none.
    If Sarah is telling the truth, common sense tells us she would WANT this nurse and Dr CBJ to talk freely.
    She would also release all medical records.
    Where is this common sense Sarah we have heard about for years??

  • Mary:

    LOL @ me, HIPPO!

  • mitch:

    There’s a great post by an anyon over at IM when Jessie talked about Andrew Sullivans response yesterday. Scroll down to read it. The writer makes the arguement that if in fact she is the birth mother, her behavior is unprofessional, reckless and irresponsible. At best! It ends with the phrase that “…..I wouldn’t let this woman house-sit my cats.”

  • ginny:

    Ummmm….if the nurse friend told this @feistysheila about being present for Trig’s birth, then she has ALREADY violated HIPAA! This @feistysheila is a liar and very likely one of Palin’s friends/fans/bots or inner circle. My mom is a nurse’s aide and she NEVER tells us anything about her patients, even if it’s our best friend!

  • jk:

    Follow Shelia’s trail from Twitter to her blog and you find out she’s a social worker. Shelia should know better than to pass on medical information her HIPPA [sic]-violating nurse friend reveals to her.

    Of course, you actually have to have a friend who is a nurse who says she was there when Sarah pushed out Trig for there to be a violation, so I think we’re all clear here.

  • Molly:

    Methinks FeistySheila is a bot! Heavens to Murgatroyd.

  • Publius:

    Right.

    Any responsible mother or parent would simply make the entire issue go away in seconds by simply providing the definitive evidence that every mother has and move on.

    The fact that Palin has not done the obvious thing to protect her family from constant questioning indicates that Palin has extremely poor judgment and decision making ability at best – insanity at worst.

    Or, that Palin did not really give birth to Trig.

  • minnesotamud:

    LOL

  • Indeed. That’s why I said this is comical. 😉

  • shreetia:

    But of course she’s a Palinbot. They all speak that strange defensive language which resembles English – but not quite!

    What’s more remarkable is that there is not a single person – Palin friend, family, co-worker, supporter, ally or otherwise anywhere in Alaska and anywhere on Earth – that can come forward and go on the record proving that Sarah Palin gave birth to Trig.

    It is very easy to prove a birth. In fact, it’s the law but very hard to prove something that never happened.

  • minnesotamud:

    Her blog, sorry to say, is revealing, IMO. I won’t say more out of politeness. Also, I suppose it is possible but I think it is telling that a social worker doesn’t know that it is HIPAA, not HIPPA.

  • I’m growing tired of those who now just suddenly pop up to say, “I saw her pregnant,” or “I was there when she popped Trig out..”

    The evidence proving that Sarah Palin was not and could not have been pregnant in 2008 far outweighs these latter day recollections. My personal contributions have been minimal: http://threebrain.blogspot.com/p/babygate-posts.html. But they are just a drop in the bucket of validation that babygate is well worth pursuing to its final conclusion.

    Medical records, please, Mrs. Sarah Heath Palin. At this point, and since you have resisted providing anything other than your disdain to anyone asking the question, at this point nothing else will do. We already know you to be a pathological liar, so extraordinary proof is required here. Otherwise, step off the stage. Go back to relative obscurity, if you want us to drop this.

  • jk:

    I completely agree with everything you’ve written, except I’ll add that this is larger than Sarah Palin.

    The GOP machine allowed this stupid woman to rise to a hair’s breath away from the oval office, knowing full well that she faked her pregnancy (not to mention all the other examples of her lying and corruption). John McCain et al. need to be exposed for their complicity (the media could use a whole lotta shaming, too).

  • carollt:

    God Bless Andrew Sullivan (again). I don’t believe any nurse can vouch for Sarah giving birth to Trig because I don’t think she did. It could be Sarah herself who signed up for that Twitter account.

    As a mother of five biological children, I can say with great certainty that Sarah Palin was not seven months pregnant in March of 2008. Why can’t Sarah just release the birth certificate; never mind the medical records. Sarah went on FOX News saying that she had released the birth certificate. Sarah lied. I recently sent away for my two youngest boy’s birth certificates so they could get drivers licenses. Even though it was out of state, I received the certificates within a week.

  • lilly lily:

    Does Feisty Sheila live in Anchorage, the new birthplace, or is she Wasillian?

    Or is she one of Lou Sarahs friends? Or Chuck Heath or Sally Heath. Or Heather or Molly.

  • jk, one can hope indeed! Bottom line which you so straightforwardly punctuated, “Sarah lied.” It’s habitual with her, and many have called it a psychological thing, a pathology if you will. What grinds my teeth is that so many in the media know and accept this diagnosis as truth, yet when it comes to whether she has/had the gall to lie about her miraculous one-month pregnancy, all doubts for them are dissolved. Yes, Quinn and Loy and Elliot, I’m talking about you.

  • lilly lily:

    O.K. Feisty Sheila lives in Alaska. She is Fat in Alaska.

    http://www.FatinAlaska. blogspot.com

    I’m going there right now before a lecture. Ta Ta.

  • daisydem:

    Thank you Joe. I so hope this issue is about to explode. It feels so good to have company in the form of authors, researchers, and professors (for those of us who have been here since late September 2008 and who did not arrive except by accident: all we did was google Sarah Palin to find out more about her. The questions about Trig’s birth were already on the web, dating from March and April 2008, from Alaska: they were not the product of the liberal, left-wing bloggers; they were not the product of any attempt to discredit her by the Obama campaign – they were already there: this needs to be made known : THE QUESTIONS WERE ALREADY THERE and they have not been answered!)

    Joe, has anyone ever contacted the people with Vogue who did the photoshoot of her in December 2008 (for the February 08 issue of Vogue)? They did an article juxtaposing Kathleen Sibelius (D) and Sarah Palin (R). The pictures of Palin have her in a large coat, you can’t tell anything. But at a photoshoot, typically a multitude of pictures are taken and they select what they will use. I cannot imagine that a team of photographers, make-up personnel, assistants would not see something evident of a pregnancy. She couldn’t have remained in a coat all the time.

  • msf:

    A social worker…oy vey.

  • lilly lily:

    All fat in Alaska, lady social worker seems to write about is food, candy, and her diet etc.

    She is toast. Or? does she actually know someone who knows something we don’t know?

    She is getting a load of traffic because of that twittering.

    She should have kept her big mouth shut. Or is she the missing link?

  • lilly lily:

    She lives 40 minutes from Wasilla. On July29, 2010 she and DH bought a place after selling their former home, which was on the market for 11 months.

    So we have someone close to Wasilla.

    I’m leaving for a lecture, anyone interested can follow it further.

  • AKRNC:

    I found it remarkable that being a medical professional myself, that nobody came forward to say, even anonymously, that they were there when Trig was born or saw her at the Doctor’s office, of which there should have been at least a dozen or more appointments. They didn’t have to give their name but if they said it anonymously, with a few details that tended to back up their story, I’d have considered them to be far more believable. However, this is the first time in 3 years that I’ve heard of ANY nurse saying anything about seeing Palin in the hospital. Sorry, it doesn’t ring true anymore than the wild ride fairy tale.

  • Back in September, I left this comment at another blog; I am pasting here because I still think it germane. (I think it’s safe to leave FeistySheila for today.) 🙂

    “I could certainly be wrong about this, but while proving a negative is problematic, one can infer at least some untruths based on one particular document. There was a piece of email (marked urgent) from a case-person working for the Alaska state health-care provider/insurer–sent I believe in mid-May–to the Palins, requesting a form that was needed in order to add the new baby to their policy. With continuity of care in place, the pre-natal appointments, as well as live-birth, would already have the newborn as a “patient.” My own policy would only require such a form or birth certificate by the 60 day mark if the newborn had been adopted.”

    This email exchange can be found archived at Palingates. I do recall that Todd Palin wrote that he would “get right on it.” I don’t have a link. (If I were a reporter, I’d find one).

    All of this caught my eye at the time because I’d forgotten that until we made out a passport application when my child was four, I did not realize that I did not possess an actual copy of his birth certificate. I had to make a request to county vital records, because the hospital sends the official certificate directly to them. Her insurance provider would certainly have had her sign any paperwork they required before she left the hospital after an actual birth.

    If the photos and her own words don’t trip her up, the paperwork trail just might.

  • minnesotamud:

    Yes, I think this is important.

  • Or maybe Levi, he was there also.

  • daisydem:

    nancydrewd: I remember that email too, but Todd’s reply was he’d “take care of it.” The reason I remember that is maybe I read too much between the lines on Todd’s emails, but it sounded ominous to me, you know, underhanded, dismissive, and in line with the way I see Todd most of the time: a bully.

  • Freesia:

    I was just doing some surfing and found out something interesting (assuming the information is accurate). Sarah said the doctor induced labor correct?

    A reader at the blog Palingates had apparently contacted the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center to find out their policies and found out the following:

    “I called the Mat-Su Regional Hospital again today and spoke with
    their Lori in their Maternity Center. I asked them what the cut
    off was for them to deliver a preemie at their facility. They told
    me that you must be over 35 weeks pregnant before you can deliver
    at their hospital. Of course they said there were exceptions.

    I asked them what they typically do if a women in labor comes in at 35
    weeks or earlier in her pregnancy. They said that they normally do a
    labor check to see how the labor/dilation is progressing and what
    stage the expectant mother is in. If the labor isn’t too far along,
    they will probably transport the mother to Providence Alaska Medical
    center in Anchorage, where there is an NICU. If the expectant mother
    is too far into labor & there is a qualified pediatrician at the
    hospital at the time, they may go ahead and let the mother give birth
    at the Mat-Su hospital.”

    If that’s the hospital’s policy, why did they induce labor? Because they’re not equipped for special needs birth, and if labor had to be induced (that is what Sarah said, yes?) then if they followed their own guidelines they’d have done a quick check and then arranged for her to go to Anchorage. Unless I’m missing something.

    ?

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:UNBMqTyKNBIJ:palingates.blogspot.com/2010/10/revisiting-questions-surrounding-trig.html+Do+the+Assemblies+of+God+run+Mat-Su+Regional+Medical+Center%3F&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

  • I wish Chuckles would take a polygraph since he said he saw Sarah “pop” out the baby. Where was Toad when all this was happening? He hasn’t come forward to say HE was there when she “popped” out Trig and now we have someone claiming her friend who is a nurse saw Sarah “push” out Trig. Liars, Liars, all of them.

  • Scorpie:

    Just have one thing to add to you post Enne. DNA~at this late stage, I wouldn’t trust a birth certificate.

  • Heidi3:

    daisydem & nancydrewd: Yes, it was a very terse, offhand remark. I believe he said, “I’ve called them”, or “I’ll call them”.

  • Enjay in E MT:

    I find it astounding that any person a heart beat away from the presidency, with a 72 y/o cancer surviver guarding the Oval office door, has had a “free pass” from the Fourth Estate. Did Hillary get a pass for Bosnia? It took the National Enquirer to expose John Edwards…are they the watchdogs for American politicians now instead of the NY Times, Washington Post, or Chicago Sun?

    We have a woman claiming to be 7-8 months pregnant getting off & on planes over several hours, possibly leaking fluid, maybe having contractions and no-one questions the story? The Alaska Medical Board doesn’t concern itself with a physician okay’ing a patient to fly, in a pressurized cabin? How about consider a 40+ year old woman with high risk pregnancy not being transferred to a more qualified OB-GYN? Or attempting to deliver a special needs child in a hospital not even allowed for twin births.? Did Alaska Airlines even question the flight attendants or gate staff wondering how they could miss this?

    Again, IF the wild ride story is true – heads should have rolled from the Physician to Mat-Su Hospital Admin to Flight Attendants and even the employee’s at the gate and concourse. Did anyone notice this woman at all, maybe even having difficulty walking with the large baby-bump? Only one person reported seeing Sarah Palin calmly reading in the Airport inbetween flights.

    Watergate started with a lot less – and it brought down Nixon. Yet nobody seems concerned that this “wonder woman” could have become the 2nd most powerful person in the US.

  • Enjay in E MT–I think this entire ridiculous saga is clear evidence of the “Northeast corridor” blinkeredness of our national media. The “Villager” mentality, as it were. They cannot translate this kind of behavior and phony-baloney “frontier/self-made/hockey mom/mavericky blah blah blah persona that’s been earning $$ for the media since Day One. It was all there, on display, at the RNC, and they just couldn’t/wouldn’t report on it. The NYT was just disgusting with its gushing puff-pieces. They are supposedly our paper-of-record. Well, she may be going, going, gone, but the after-effects their residuals are not.

  • ArmchairJane:

    This is a true story, which occurred at a hospital very similar in size and scope of practice to Mat-Su. Hospital similarly located in a “rural” area in a commuter town approximately the same distance from the Big City Hospital with the Level III NICU as Mat-Su is to Anchorage Providence. The rules were exactly the same as those at Mat-Su. That is, right down to the “over 35 weeks”, ie 36 weeks and above cut-off, no twin deliveries, and same policy with regards to transport if a woman came in who did not meet the criteria.

    In over a dozen years at that facility, I am aware of only one time that those rules were significantly breached, in this case a twin delivery at 37 weeks. The result: both twins within hours required emergency transport via helicopter with neonatal transport team to the level III NICU. Consequences: removal of hospital privileges of the doc for “professional incompetence”, and sanctions by the board of medicine on the doctor’s license, who never regained OB privileges again, and now practices in a different area of medicine away across the country. The hospital itself was lucky that staff had the presence of mind to overrule the doctor and order the transport before things got any worse.

    And we’re supposed to believe that Palin not only delivered at 35 weeks but “had to be induced”, as Dr. CBJ puts it in the ADN article published shortly after the birth was announced. “Had to be induced” implies both a failure to progress labor, as well as a reason for the induction, such as prolonged rupture of membranes.

    What a huge risk to take, if the birth story is true, and to do it with the Governor’s baby??? Hard to fathom that the hospital would want to put itself in such a position: not only violating guidelines, but in such a case that if there was a problem as a result, that an entire state would know of their failure in judgment.

  • Deanne:

    In this age of technology, there was never a person in the doctor’s office with a cell phone clicking pictures and posting that ‘They saw the Governor at the doctor’s office’!!!!

  • Karen:

    It occurs to me that none of the articles in recent days vouching for Palin as the birth mother of Trig includes the statement: “Calls to Sarah Palin’s office for comment were not returned” or “Repeated calls to SP’s office were not returned,”Or “E-mails to SP’s office were not returned by press time,” or “Tweets to the Twitter Queen went un-retweeted”; etc. Didn’t any of these journalists think they might want to ask Palin or her spokesperson directly? Isn’t that how the media typically writes stories?

  • KatieAnnieOakley:

    Obviously, FeistySheila has never heard of web caches… yikes, what a dope.

  • KatieAnnieOakley:

    Alaska Stock has those images, and they are copyright-protected. Just search Sarah Palin and put the images in chronological order. They were shot in early December 2007 – BTW, that double-breasted midnight-blue jacket is very, very fitted…

  • KatieAnnieOakley:

    And how… YIKES.

  • Point is–that’s part of the record they probably don’t want anyone dredging/hauling back up for examination. I don’t care what Todd Palin’s exact words were in response to the email request. There’s a red-flag there. They could have lost their insurance coverage for this infant without further documentation. By a deadline.

  • B:

    I thought he said he was there when Trig popped out, not that he saw it. He could mean at the hospital.

  • KatieAnnieOakley:

    She also follows / is being followed by a number of Palin ‘bots and belongs to / is listed on many Palin Lists.

  • Freesia:

    Thank you for writing that ArmchairJane. It goes to one of the really puzzling (telling?) things about the risks took by the doctor and hospital. And you illustrated why.

    That “induced labor” comment always bothered me. Set off a bell or something. It didn’t ring true.

    Sometimes when someone is sort of making up a story, they make a mistake of tossing into too much detail. That always struck me as a detail too far. Because it doesn’t make sense.

  • jenny:

    There are so many ways to avoid HIPAA laws and get to the bottom of this mystery. I say, let’s be done with it. I am with the camp who believes the “Wild Ride” speaks to Palin’s poor judgment. I often wonder how Palin would have explained her actions if indeed the birth was a miserably compromised event at 36,000 feet. And it is here that I fault her doctor, CBJ. No wonder CBJ can only be on record with her attorney in tow.

  • Sally:

    SHE’S BAAACKK. After her silence following the shoutdown in Madison, Sarah (RAM) is back on Facebook calling the President names for not telling her his exact plans for Libya…right now! Before golf season starts. The woman is unbelievable. Please let the facts come out soon so she can just shut up.

  • Chris:

    There is a Shelia on the See4Pee blog. Sounds just like something they’d say and do. I believe she thinks of herself as “feisty”. She’d probably lie for her Queen Ester if she felt the need.

    IMO FAKE and totally FALSE. EPIC FAIL (one of their fav sayings) See4Pee cult! Try again.

  • Earl:

    it is unbelievable to me that Sarah was able to make two flights back to Alaska without somoene on either plane ride noticing that she was pregnant. When I look at the photo with the black clothing and interviewer and camera man, it is just impossible for me to believe that if she boarded a plane, somone would know. Her gait would be wide and very obvious as well. And what excatly did she do to absord amniotic fluid from saturating the airline seats. The picture i just mentioned is a picture that suggest that her abdomen was at its largest and her hands clasped below her ” pregnant abdomen”. Just saying!

  • Mary:

    First off, I LOVE your name – I have reread the Nancy Drew books as an adult (sad? I don’t care!).

    Anyway, here is the email I think you’re referring to:

    http://www.crivellawest.net/palin/pdf/1397.pdf

  • Chris:

    lol, very good point.

  • Dr Who:

    Did everyone see the incredibly arrogant and rude tweets sent by Jason L at HP to Patrick Palingates? And Dave Wiegels comments? What is with these jerks, and that is what they are.
    Wiegel is lazy in my opinion. He’s trying to cover his behind from very poorly researched articles he has done. Linkins is just a jerk who apparently has done no research. The problem is that they are equating this with the Obama birthed situation when there is NO comparison! The two issues shouldn’t even be talked about together.
    I’ve started noticing that a lot of Linkins writing is arrogant and condescending. It is based on his holier than thou opinions, not on fact. His pieces are dripping with sarcasm and there was no need to tweet Patrick such dismissive comments. He has a serious problem and if THIS guy represents the state of ” journalism” today, it is no wonder Palin was never vetted properly. He is as bad as the Palinbot who called Joe an idiot.
    What are we going to do to get the the truth with arrogant above it all extremists like this??

  • nswfm:

    Speaking of crazy, this is my go-to laugh inducer, and it wouldn’t exist had the author/ blog owner Joe moved in next door:

    http://wonkette.com/415689/hilarious-nut-leaves-comment-about-sarah-palins-house

  • Far East Loon:

    New article at Politicusua:

    Debunking The Myth That The Trig Truthers Are Misogynists

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/trig-truthers-misogynists

  • sallyngarland,tx:

    I worked in insurance for years. I actually added newborns to policies. When a claim came in for childbirth, we would automatically add the child from the mother’s claim (effective the date of birth) because it showed that a child had been born, date and the time. If we didn’t have a name, it would be baby girl or boy until we were notified. If we added adopted children, it was effective when the adoptive parents took custody of the baby. I have always felt that email was a link to the truth. The public will never be able to get those records but I think that is the answer. I believe Trig was adopted based on that email.

  • Ivyfree:

    But he wasn’t there when Trig popped out; not if he wants us to believe Sarah gave birth to him. Trig was allegedly born at 0630; the senior Heaths did not arrive until several hours later. And remember Chuckie’s first comment wasn’t, “Nonsense, I was there!” but “How can you prove that?” I’m pretty sure I know where Sarah picked up her lying habit.

  • Sharon_too_also:

    Karen just made a gotcha! Good work.

  • lilly lily:

    The loathsome twit Sarah is Baackkk on Greta, mean girl mouthing off as is usual for her appearances.

    The womans mouth contortions are incredable as she spits out venom.

    Well the President has done everything he could to silence the birthers on his release of the long form.

    Sarah has done nothing but provide various versions verbaly in her 100,000$ And all the versions alter in details. Her gritty fronteirswoman saga. Each version more incredable than the last.

    Maybe she is the childs biological mother. I wasn’t there like the nurse who saw Trig “pushed out.”

    Fat in Alaska apparently has pulled in the rug on her blog. Need a google account to access, when last nite before 9p.m. it was open to all to read about her dietary woes. I made no comments in her blog, and there was no reason to do so.

    But the look ins were there as evidenced on Feedit.

  • Sharon_too_also:

    Obama just threw all the jerks a curve releasing his original birth certificate. Can’t wait to see where this goes now . . . . .

  • Pam:

    Thanks again Joe, for providing this wonderfully large format to discuss this important issue. Some of us have been following this for over two years. It gets very fatiguing for me; I don’t know how you have the stomach for it all. But I am glad that you do! I look forward to one day putting all this behind me and just remembering that truth wins out. I know it will and I can’t wait.

  • mitch:

    I’ll tell you where. They are claiming it is a phony. A few minutes ago Trump was wondering why “all of a sudden” the Pres releases the much sought after long form. These people need to be publically excoriated.

  • Melly:

    Weigel and Linkins…among the “commenters” I despise–they are gadflies, neither writers nor researchers. I picture them with staffs that scour the Internet and send their bosses some items to chew over and get snide about. They stand up during the day only to piss and get more coffee. The rest of the time they write and receive e-mails, usually just with their pals, but sometimes with sources–and they count the exchanges with the sources as an “interview.”

  • Mary–Bullseye. That’s the one. Note the interesting timeline as well. The document was generated on May 21, and passed on as Urgent. An April 18 birthdate would have given the Palins until June 18 before there was a problem. As far as I’m concerned this lays it out. Both birthdate and birth parent questions are implied.

  • Mary, the next time you need a “Nancy” hit, this one’s for you. 😉

  • Rob:

    I think Palin is a pathological liar

    I think the media more or less gives her a pass.

    I think the media examined Trig’s birth and rationally, rightly concluded he was Sarah’s

    That was the end of the story and it happened quite some time ago.

    The story since is about the pathology of the truther movement. It and the birther movement give an insight into how the irrational mind guides the rational and how the divine gift of Logos clearly was not distributed evenly.